Draglist's Journal, 27 Jan 14

Hey Bill, that's bound to be a temporary aberration. Regardless of Saturday, you are running a solid caloric deficit for the week and month. I'm sure this will reverse itself. Remember, your weight can swing 5-7 pounds per day just depending on the amount of fluids in your system. Have no fear, I know that you've got a handle on this and all will be well by the end of the day...tomorrow at the latest! 

That sucks. Hope it rights itself quick. 

Mass consumption will hit you in 2-3 days on the scale. No worries. It will be gone by tomorrow. 

You'll get that off in no time..I just know you will..Have a great day...:O) 

Unfortunately, I found that the 16:8 only works for me when I use it in conjunction with my WOE. It does not allow me any extras.  

Not to worry on those daily fluctuations, just so long as the "trend" is going down. "this too shall pass", have a great day! 

Went to the doctor today and he said my bmi was 29. Based on my age, height and weight. I can see I'll never get a good bmi unless I do the bodpod or get the Tanita.  

Though we're close in the numbers, we have to take into account that you're 40lbs. heavier then me. Height plays a role as does age. I had a bodpod done last June and it was 29 and I was 20lbs heavier. I can't do the program using incorrect data. I'd imagine my daily intake would be all wrong. Talked with the doctor about it and he admits they're screwy and the info doesn't apply to everyone, including me considering the loss and my workout history. I wonder where I could find a scale similar to the Tanita that I could use and get a good reading, other then buying one or doing the bodpod.  

According to the nasty little sheet I took and crumpled up and stuffed in my purse, it says "Your BMI IS 28.96". Getting the feeling I'm confusing something? Straighten me out. Educate me. Please.  

ClassicRocker...Please, Please, Please ignore BMI. The experts that use it will tell you that it is USELESS for an individual. It only works with large population data sets where the sum total becomes...AVERAGE. I have a 15.1% body fat. MY BMI puts me at OVERWEIGHT / Borderline OBESE. It says that to not be overweight, I need to weigh 148 pounds. Its BS. Stick to body fat percentages or lacking that...pant sizes, how you look, etc. BMI is junk (and most lazy physicians will try to use it instead of doing a body fat test). 

BMI is simply a height:weight ratio. That puts many cut bodybuilders with 4-8% body fat in the obese range. Draglist. I took a week off the cut to eat at maintenance and after three days stabilized at 5 pounds above the weight I was during the cut. How much did you bump up? I figure you're looking at water/glycogen stores.. Don't worry too much about going above 220. As long as body composition is good, everything is great, though it's good to have a goal. I'll be using 15% body fat as my trigger to cut in future. Currently at 11%. Just about ready to get some bulking going on. 

Northernmuscian you are my hero. That's exactly the place I'd like to get to. Bottom at 10 - 12% and top out no higher than 15%. Awesome results...thanks for the great info. I have a question though. I've been taking Whey Protein exclusively. What do you think? Should I think about a casein Protein for post workouts, for the slower absorption, and keep the whey protein for taking with meals? 

I've gone to two different sites and entered measurements and gotten body fat rates of 27% and 41%. Interesting. I give up and will use TX's advice and go on how my pants feel. Just would like to know muscle mass. Thanks everyone. Still confused, but appreciate your input. 

Hey ClassicRocker. If you get frustrated enough, you can pick up a BIA body fat measuring scale. If you don't want to buy a Tanita, walmart.com has a Taylor bodyfat & water percentage scale for $28 that Consumer Reports gave a good report card on. I bought a Tanita Body Fat & water scale for $54 on line which I'm now going to give to my daughter because I broke down & ordered the Body Composition Scale like the one Draglist uses (I couldn't resist the 9 categories of information it provides). I think it was like $88 with free shipping. I really think that if you're serious about losing fat & not just weight, that its critical to get a fairly accurate reading on your body fat. I find it incredibly useful. Good Luck! Have a wonderful day.  

I am very serious about losing fat. And I swore to myself I wouldn't get a Tanita and that the numbers on the scale were good enough. I am concerned about visceral fat. And curious about muscle mass. I looked at calipers, but I've got so much skin, how do you measure that? You can't do a correct measurement of something like that. So, I will consider the Tanita. Thanks Guys!!! You've been great and I appreciate the fact you've taken the time to educate me.  

Classic Rocker, I completely ignore BMI and focus on overall weight. BMI is an interesting metric, but almost totally useless for most folks' needs. And to make my program super simple, it's nothing more than calories in versus calories out. Less in equals weight loss. That's it. No shortcuts, no fussing about on fancy scales needed. Less eating + light exercise such as walking is more than enough for most people like me to lose significant weight. The emotional and spiritual part of eating is a really big deal for most people. My intuition wonders if you might join a group or program that helps you get more comfortable with being more hungry for longer. Learning a healthy hunger-response pattern is pretty important: "Stomach growls before lunch, eat half my lunch, then wait. Still hungry, eat other half. Not hungry, save it for late afternoon or tomorrow." Be interested to hear your thoughts. 

TXSnowman. I've read a lot about casein but have yet to try it. I'm not sure 'slow protein' will really amount to much. While the idea seems to make sense, if you've got the protein in your system that digests more slowly does that make it more accessible or effective? Got me. I would be more interested in knowing if it will keep me from waking up hungry. :D Good luck with your cut. After a 60 pound loss hanging around in the 18-2200 range, I'm ready to hit my maintenance and up it to 2800 for a while. I may try a 4 week bulk followed by a two week cut. I met a woman in the Okanagan who was working out one day. She's a competitor. She was about 5' 2" and very lean. She was in the middle of her bulk, at 4000 calories per day. :( Rambling... 

ClassicRocker/wh3500, I couldn't agree more with your position that eating less and simple exercise will show tremendous results when you're trying to lose weight. I started right at 335 lbs and for the first 100 lbs of weight-loss didn't do anything more than cut my calories, spread them out throughout the day in several small meals to keep from getting hungry, and WALK. I walked at about 3 miles per hour and started at 2 miles. I increased the distance over time to 8, 10, 12 miles but kept the speed at 20 min per mile. After losing 100 lbs, I started wearing a weighted vest to keep the calorie burn up, and I also began using other exercises. Most of the folks on here messing with body-fat analysis and eating regimens have little or no weight to lose at this point. They are trying to gain some muscle, lose some fat, condition or tone their bodies, and MAINTAIN the loss they've achieved. At least that's my take on it. I would make one note on hunger and the simple concept of Calories in vs Calories out. When you are trying to eat significantly lower amounts of calories, I find that if I avoid high-glycemic carbs in my diet, I don't get hungry...period. I eat a lot of spinach, green beans, broccoli, etc. for my carbs. I avoid bread, rice, and grains in general. I eat lower calorie choices of meats and dairy because I can take in more quantity of food per calorie. Good Luck in all your endeavors. I wish you well.  

NorthernMusician, that was the reason I'm looking into Caesin. My thought was that the slower digestion rate would give better absorption and also keep you feeling full longer. I just ordered some Isopure Zero-Carb protein to try. Its got quite a bit fewer calories than the GNC whey isolate that I've been using.