Kenna Morton's Journal, 29 Sep 19

I read this guy’s blog every Sunday. Very rational,very knowledgeable. No for everyone but I love reading what he has to say.

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Good morning, everybody.
Earlier this week, someone asked me how I'd deal with a student athlete whose coaches were telling them what seems to be the opposite of Primal nutrition, things like fueling up on simple carbs, drinking Gatorade for electrolytes, drinking chocolate milk postgame to recover, etc.
It's a great question, and it's actually something I had to deal with as the father of two athletic teens—teens who were in the prime of their athletic lives as I was getting deep into Primal nutrition, writing books and daily blogs on the subject.
Here's how I dealt with it—by talking to my kids. They had to make the decision. They had to understand why eating junk probably wasn't a good idea.
It's a hard one, to be sure. My kids were lean and fit with no obvious health ramifications from eating whatever they wanted.
On a purely physiological, mechanistic level, a teen athlete who is training like most high school teams train—every day, for several hours, with tons of conditioning and (often) strength training—can "get away" with stuff like simple carbs, Gatorade, and chocolate milk.
They're training so hard and burning through so many calories that even something as pernicious as rancid seed oils won't gain much purchase or become incorporated into as many cell membranes as they would in a sedentary adult because they'll be burned for energy so quickly. And they're physically growing in stature and swimming in androgens (teen boys, at least), so they need even more calories just to build new tissue.
But there are three things wrong, even if they appear to be in the clear today:
1. It's not optimal. There are always whole food, nutrient-dense options that provide just as many calories in as attractive a package as the junk. A banana and peanut butter. A glass of whole milk. Burger patty with baked potato. Whey protein shake. Coconut water. Why not go optimal?
2. It sets bad psychological precedent. Kids may not feel the pain when they're training 4 hours a day, but what about 20 years later working an office job with the same dietary predilections? Time and time again, I see former athletes who kept eating like they were elite athletes and ended up with 50 extra pounds and a slew of totally avoidable health problems.
3. It catches up to you. I was the picture of health and fitness when I was training for marathons and eating a quart of ice cream and pounds of grains every day, but inside I was a wreck. My joints ached. I had digestive issues. It caught up to me—fast.
Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much. Change is coming. The top athletes these days eat clean. Look at Tom Brady. Look at Novak Djokovic. Look at the NBA teams overhauling their nutrition, drinking bone broth, and buying grass-fed meats. This stuff hasn't trickled down to the high school level as quickly, but it's coming. Pretty soon (and it's already happening in some locales), your average high school football coach will be making custom electrolyte blends and recommending collagen kefir shakes preworkout and sweet potatoes instead of spaghetti. Just you wait.
If you have any other tips for parents of teen athletes, add them to the comment section of this week's Weekly Link Love. Thanks for reading, everybody.
Enjoy your Sunday.
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View Diet Calendar, 29 September 2019:
1268 kcal Fat: 42.82g | Prot: 88.23g | Carbs: 132.22g.   Breakfast: Spinach , Nopales (Without Salt, Cooked) , Sarabeth's Orange Apricot Marmalade, Dave's Killer Bread Thin-Sliced Organic Bread 21 Whole Grains & Seeds, Egg, Maxwell House International Cafe Orange, Turkey pork breakfast sausage, Aqua de Jamaica (hibiscus ice tea), POM Wonderful 100% Pomegranate Juice, Welch's Concord Grape Fruit Juice Cocktail. Lunch: Tillamook good and creamy vanilla bean yogurt, Ranch Granola, Tru-Nut Powdered Peanut Butter, Wheat Montana Milled Flax Seed, Driscoll's Blueberries, Chobani Nonfat Plain Greek Yogurt, Nutiva Organic Chia Seed, 2% Lowfat Cottage Cheese. Dinner: Peach Pie (One Crust), Spinach , Simply Enjoy Grilled Zucchini, Publix Sea Scallops, Publix Large Shrimp. more...
1491 kcal Exercise: Studying - 1 hour, Housework - 1 hour, Cooking - 2 hours, Resting - 12 hours, Sleeping - 8 hours. more...

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I love reading Mark. So full of great information 
29 Sep 19 by member: tatauu22
Yea. No fitness trainer is going to say - now that you've worked out, go eat a donut. But I am little confused - what is wrong with chocolate milk and what is wrong with rice? 😕 
29 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe
I think the point is not so much what is so wrong with rice and choc. Milk but what is so nutritionally correct with things like quinoa. Pull up the USDA FOOD NUTRITION PROGRAM where you can pull up 2 foods for a side to side nutritional comparison. I like this guy. Always has interesting thing in his blogs and presents just another perspective on healthier eating. Food for thought. 
29 Sep 19 by member: Kenna Morton
My 16 year old son isn't an athlete, but he worked a man's, extremely physical job this summer. He gained at least 10 pounds in a few months of what appears to be pure muscle. We encouraged him to eat a banana with some water instead of a Gatorade when he needed quick energy. He had homemade, low sugar, nut filled, power cookies instead of processed junk, and he brought leftovers and sandwiches for lunc from home rather than eating fast food like most of the other crew members. I know he bought junk from time to time, but showing and teaching our teens good choices does have a big impact.  
29 Sep 19 by member: melissatwa
I mean you can always emphasize healthiest but I mean where does over analysis paralysis end? It's a point where it all seems obsessive compulsive. I can see if they were comparing real junk....but give the kiddos some chocolate milk for crying out loud. Just eat a balanced diet rich in good foods - the end. And if you compare chocolate milk to milk - I mean sugar is most major difference. Choco milk actually beats milk in terms of certain essential minerals.  
29 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe
Melissatwa, I agree! Kenna Morton, I was a child of the 70's and 80's when Gatorade was king. My parents didn't know better. I DO remember apples, oranges, and bananas in a bowl in the kitchen. THAT was snack time. As a TEENAGER we were allowed one soda a month, if any. We never had fast food. I was in college before I had a McDonalds hamburger. The point? Even though I love all kinds of bread (my craving downfall), I really don't crave cookies, cakes, candy, and soda. I just wasn't raised around it and really don't "get" those cravings. Kenna, I wish more parents just exposed kids to healthy foods and didn't use junk food as a reward (in addition to TRAINING for sports for heaven sakes). Ok, off of my soapbox.  
29 Sep 19 by member: binkytexas
My coworkers have athletic kids - my manager is athlete - she just finished the Boston marathon. My other teammate is HS varsity soccer coach. They don't promote eating junk. In fact, I have received some great meal ideas from each. It is definitely important to instill in kids healthy nutrition habits - but when talking about certain comparisons, it just seems like really? People can't just eat normal without thinking they are going to die tomorrow ... why be so controlled by food? Quinoa vs rice? Milk vs. Chocolate milk? Really? Now McDonald's french fries vs. baked potato - that's food for thought.  
29 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe
Good, better, BEST! Never let it rest until the good is better and the better is BEST." My dad always used to say that. 😁 I think he was talking mostly about grades, but perhaps we aim too low sometimes in a lot of areas. When it comes to the food I encourage my kids to eat, I'm going to try to help them make the" better"choices. They will sure make their own path, but they will also feel a lot better physically not eating Top Ramen every day for a snack or grabbing a snickers bar for energy. thealthier choic 
29 Sep 19 by member: melissatwa
It is so funny because I just two days ago I convinced that same lad to try quinoa! "OK try! Add a little butter!" he ended up eating a big scoop! But, true, I'm all for the potato over the French fries, AMT! Balance is I think what we are all trying to gain!  
29 Sep 19 by member: melissatwa
Yea... my dad always said "Don't be good. Be Excellent." in which it referred to grades in a B vs. A. From living that way, I resolved to retire that saying. I personally didn't find it encouraging. I am a big supporter of teaching kids nutrition - instilling healthy habits. I do that with the kiddos in my life. Fast food and processed food vs. home cooked meals etc. But certain things just feel like why is this turning into rocket science?  
29 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe
Yep, getting too fussy isn't super helpful. Real food is what matters most for sure. Seeing the processed, less healthful stuff as something to limit is my goal. 😊  
29 Sep 19 by member: melissatwa
And I am totally not judging any food choices! My kids eat plenty of pizza and runs to the corner store are greatly enjoyed. I just try to encourage and provide healthy choices when given the opportunity.  
29 Sep 19 by member: melissatwa
I feel you Melissa! It is no secret I am strobg for healthy eating. I just grew up around athletics and Ivguess I am taken a back by tge article...coaches I have encountered don't encourage bad eating. The health of their athletes is taken seriously. My mom was a varsuty basketball coach. Me my sisters cousins all involved wuth sports. Coaches are better influence rs than parents in terms of healthy eating. It is just weird there us scrutiny over chocolate milk.  
29 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe
Yes, for sure I know you are for healthy eating and living! 😁  
30 Sep 19 by member: melissatwa
Thank you for sharing this! Exactly what I’m looking for to tell my teens. 
30 Sep 19 by member: J8waves
Over my 71 years I have seen every diet come and go and every WOE go from king to villain. So, I am portion control and moderation but I really enjoy research and like to keep abreast of what the world of science, medicine and even sports have to offer. I know what an impact BETTER food choices over time has made in my own health. One of the people I mentored on a lifestyle change program was just 8 and very obese when we began and is now 14 and preparing for her fourth marathon. I learned a lot about the power and importance of pediatric nutrition and the impact of what you eat when you are 8 and it’s affect on your bones and general health when you are 60. The kids who are now in their 20-30s and younger will be the first generation in history to not have the life expectancy of their parents/grandparents. I think being obsessive in any diet is not healthy. Being open to change and new science is important. Our lives, our food supply, everything about the way human beings survive is changing rapidly. We as individuals need to prepare ourselves and the young people in our worlds to adjust to those changes and move forward. Earth has survived 5 extinctions— we have now entered into the beginning phase of the sixth. This time the extinction will be us. Frightening thoughts. I knew this from the many classes I take but this week I went to a lecture given by a paleontologist to a crowd of adults and junior high school aged kids. A brief discussion of the sixth extinction was done. I was amazed that most of the kids were very well aware of this concept— they had learned it in school. These kids were all kids in schools with heavy STEM programs. 
30 Sep 19 by member: Kenna Morton
I agree. Teach them to cook how to grocery shop. Encourage universities to offer better meal options. Give them financial stability so they can afford stuff besides top ramen in college and in 20s. Keep them in sports and encourage getting off the phone and being active. So many reasons why younger folks are sicker than parents...and parents should take more interest. But sports are usually a positive avenue. Decreases use of drugs and alcohol as well.  
30 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe
About my tribe— you are obsessing over the chocolate milk. It has long been used as part of exercise recovery— It won’t kill anyone. Drink it and enjoy.  
30 Sep 19 by member: Kenna Morton
😁...you are right about that! lol 
30 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe
I sometimes also wonder the effects of a parents diet during pregnancy too.  
30 Sep 19 by member: AboutMyTribe

     
 

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