-Diablo's Journal, 07 Nov 19

Similar weight loss with low- or high-carbohydrate diets.

"Abstract

The goal of this study was to evaluate the effect of diets that were equally low in energy but widely different in relative amounts of fat and carbohydrate on body weight during a 6-wk period of hospitalization. Consequently, 43 adult, obese persons were randomly assigned to receive diets containing 4.2 MJ/d (1000 kcal/d) composed of either 32% protein, 15% carbohydrate, and 53% fat, or 29% protein, 45% carbohydrate, and 26% fat. There was no significant difference in the amount of weight loss in response to diets containing either 15% (8.9 +/- 0.6 kg) or 45% (7.5 +/- 0.5 kg) carbohydrate. Furthermore, significant decreases in total body fat and waist-to-hip circumference were seen in both groups, and the magnitude of the changes did not vary as a function of diet composition. Fasting plasma glucose, insulin, cholesterol, and triacylglycerol concentrations decreased significantly in patients eating low-energy diets that contained 15% carbohydrate, but neither plasma insulin nor triacylglycerol concentrations fell significantly in response to the higher-carbohydrate diet. The results of this study showed that it was energy intake, not nutrient composition, that determined weight loss in response to low-energy diets over a short time period."


^Is 43 subjects enough since apparently 19 isn't?


Comparison of weight-loss diets with different compositions of fat, protein, and carbohydrates.

811 participants. Maybe this is sufficient?

CONCLUSIONS:
Reduced-calorie diets result in clinically meaningful weight loss regardless of which macronutrients they emphasize.

There are many more at this link. When calories and protein are equal, so is weight loss.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19246357
https://hoffday.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/several-metabolic-ward-studies-have-shown-that-there-is-no-difference-in-weight-loss-when-protein-intake-was-held-constant/

View Diet Calendar, 07 November 2019:
4955 kcal Fat: 167.76g | Prot: 192.47g | Carbs: 705.72g.   Breakfast: Think thinkGreen Nutrition Bars - Peanut Butter Chocolate, Fairlife 1% Low Fat Milk, Syrup, Sugar, Kellogg's Frosted Mini-Wheats Bite Size - Original, Fiber One Protein One Chocolate Chip Bar, Pears, Great Value Light Greek Nonfat Yogurt. Lunch: Milk (Nonfat), Carrot Cake with Icing, Apples, Fairlife 1% Low Fat Milk, Graham Crackers (Plain or Honey, Includes Cinnamon). more...
3757 kcal Exercise: Weight Training (moderate) - 1 hour, Standing - 3 hours, Bicycling (leisurely) - <10/mph - 4 hours, Resting - 8 hours, Sleeping - 8 hours. more...

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So for diabetics, less carbs is better though. For everyone else it doesn't matter but if you can't eat them without overeating then skip it if you feel you have to. 
07 Nov 19 by member: davidsprincess
lol just playing devil's advocate, D! My study sample is 1 and that is enough to convince me CICO is the only way weight loss works! 
07 Nov 19 by member: abbadabba
thanks for the data, Diablo. This is one of my favorite things about FS. So many ppl with different ways of eating and opinions. Some loosing weight, some bulking. I find this fascinating. Civil discussions are productive & healthy. I don't think there is another forum out there like this one. 
07 Nov 19 by member: ketoBruce
I agree for the most part. Yes for weight loss. Not always for those who don’t need to lose weight and merely fine tune. 
07 Nov 19 by member: velvetee
there is no bad macros if it is in its natural form when it comes to health. But it is the unnatural processed food that is questionable. Be healthy my friends  
07 Nov 19 by member: liberflow
Great Info, thanks for sharing1 
07 Nov 19 by member: Moondancedude
You're welcome. People are pretty confused about carbs on this site. Seems it will never end. Meanwhile, the leanest people have the highest percentage of carbs. 
07 Nov 19 by member: -Diablo

     
 

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