cannboys's Journal, 08 Nov 18

Another question for the public.

When you hear the term “meat free” for a dietary classification, would you expect that to exclude shellfish & fish?

Also, is “meat free” the right label for a diet that doesn’t include meat from cattle, sheep, pigs, goats etc?

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if it has the term meat free I would assume that it would have no seafood also 
07 Nov 18 by member: keith george cooke
vegetarian is the correct term for a meat free diet. vegan is the term for not eating anything that casts a shadow hahahaha 
07 Nov 18 by member: keith george cooke
Meat free to me would be no meat if any kind. Fish and seafood included. When I hear ‘meat free’ I think of veggie or soy burgers and tofu.  
07 Nov 18 by member: peeperjj
I wouldn't class fish or seafood as meat so no. I'm peseta run but I don't eat meat, just because I don't really like it and it disagrees with me, and we get such great fresh fish over here in the Canaries 
08 Nov 18 by member: Missy motivated
"Meat free" suggests vegetarian, to me. I consider fish and shellfish still to be "meat" because it is still the flesh (meat) of an animal. 
08 Nov 18 by member: jmf2018
If you eat only fish and no other meat products, this is called "pescetarian"  
08 Nov 18 by member: jmf2018
I don't know, but I don't eat meat or seafood, because I don't like it, only chicken, I love dairy products and bacon grease though 😀 
08 Nov 18 by member: Keilin_4
Vegan - no animal products. Vegetarian - eggs and dairy included. Pescatarian - eats fish in addition to dairy and eggs. Carnivore - eats meat. Omnivore - eats all food groups. 
08 Nov 18 by member: Erquiaga
Thanks all for your input. I ask because we’re looking at food classifications atm, and want to make sure we’re matching our thinking to customer expectations. If there were a collection of diet classes ie: “meat free”, “fish”, “shellfish”, “red/white meats” would that change anyone’s answer? 
09 Nov 18 by member: cannboys
@erquiaga those definitions align pretty closely to how I understood diets too 
09 Nov 18 by member: cannboys
Cannboys, I am wondering if that would make it too complicated in focus or add too many groups. We have gluten free, keto, Atkins, Weight Watchers, T.O.P.S., and on and on. Everywhere you look, there is a new cure for our weight problems. My more recent concern are the number of underweight people who want to be even thinner who are using the app. Lots of anorexia, body dysmorphia, and depression. 
09 Nov 18 by member: Erquiaga
Good point Chrisw77, everyone should be able to use the site. I just feel helpless when you read a post from someone who is really in trouble. 
09 Nov 18 by member: Erquiaga
I am sure we can always email them privately and offer support. 
09 Nov 18 by member: Erquiaga
Chrisw77, knew what you meant. 🌈 
09 Nov 18 by member: Erquiaga
I wasn't saying anything about specific WOE. Everyone is so different. I support anyone who is trying whether I agree with their plan or not. So, do you need the input on eating styles to streamline the journaling process? 
09 Nov 18 by member: Erquiaga
It's hard I agree, I often start digging myself into a hole hahaha. Fasting long term,no solid foods,keto, The list goes on and on of things that I wouldn't recommend. But if it works for others I have to accept it and hope the short term results have no long term I'll effects.  
09 Nov 18 by member: keith george cooke
With those diet classes you mentioned I would still say ‘meat free’ means no animal meat of any kind (flesh). I would think tofu or all veggies. However I adapt easily to this sort of thing so if the definitions are easy to find in the app then I would catch on either way :).  
09 Nov 18 by member: peeperjj
The way forward I’m seeing, is to have a mix of broad & overlapping dietary mixes, but on the customer side we’ll ultimately ask people to get very granular about specific foods they do or don’t eat, then match them to potential diet plans that will suit them. 
09 Nov 18 by member: cannboys
I have to agree with chrisw77 on this. I am an omnivore who rarely eats red meat but, on occasion, I may fancy a steak or something. We are pretty good at determining what foods we can or cannot eat but would prefer not to be lumped into a group. 
10 Nov 18 by member: xXMadMazzaXx
I see - a sense check on chrisw’s posts do seem an urgent necesity 
10 Nov 18 by member: cannboys

     
 

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