Intriguing. Could this be a 'survival' instinct where the body recognizes 'yeah, it's really time to eat and here's a little aggression to go hunt & kill?' We don't need that of course in our modern world. Nor do most of us wait until that phase.
15 Aug 19 by member: FullaBella
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Yes, it’s for survival. The body get stressed when starved of fuel.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43050394
Sohangry, you are real.
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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The body fuels what’s most important and emotional control isn’t a priority. This is why for me, i yo-yo when I fast. I get super hungry, lose the ability to make good decisions to eat reasonably and gorge myself. Small deficits works best for me. I feel a little deprived but I can continue to control my mood and food.
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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I guess if after eating, even if overeating, we all waited for that next fasting 'hangry' it'd be okay?
15 Aug 19 by member: FullaBella
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I think that's what drives so many disordered eating patterns. The concept of 'x' meals a day, one diet suggests xx-mini meals a day, the perception of starvation affecting metabolism because of a fasting... it's all confusing.
15 Aug 19 by member: FullaBella
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Opinions vary on whether *I* am truly fasting by only drinking coffee with half & half until 6-7 pm. I don't think of it as an intentional fast. I've just become adjusted to 'not being hungry' throughout the day.
15 Aug 19 by member: FullaBella
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It’s a liquid fast. I think it’s great you know you’re not hungry and you eat when you are. 👍👍👍
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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Getting there - trying to train myself not to eat out of habit, boredom, emotions... one meal at a time some days.
15 Aug 19 by member: FullaBella
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BTW - I held a tree pose this morning for a decent length. It was interesting hearing the cracking when I extended into it.
15 Aug 19 by member: FullaBella
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I do not think starvation diet and fasting are the same thing as long as you are fasting with body fat to lose.
15 Aug 19 by member: liv001
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Liv, “ Starvation” was define here as severe food restriction with very low calorie levels. Fasting in diet terms (source google) I see as consuming 0-500 cal a day. I was thinking about this bc it came up in an metabolic ward study by yang and itallie. They put the obese participants in a 10 day 0 calorie diet which they called the starvation diet. On FS sometimes fasting used interchangeably with starvation having a negative connotation. I also see members called a liquid diet as a fast too because they are abstaining from chewing. I’m currently fasting/starving but not hungry right now. Saving my daily calories for a dinner date with a girlfriend.
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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Bella, if you’re on ig send me messages when you feel like emotionally eating or blog here. It’s one of the hardest habits to break and something I struggle with even though it seems like my weight is stable.
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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Bella, 👍👍👍 on holding that pose! Meditation helps with studying focused!
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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Studying= staying; I need a new phone
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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Thanks Moopie - I will, and do (just post or ramble here when fighting a binge). I think that was my fav pose..next to child's pose or Shavasana...
15 Aug 19 by member: FullaBella
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💕💕💕 my current fav is happy baby.
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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I am with Fung on the issue of how starving and fasting are not the same.
15 Aug 19 by member: liv001
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Maybe that’s partially why the FS community have communication problems. We’re using the same word but with different meaning.
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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Liv, so according to Fung a fat person can fast but a skinny person starves? Is that the difference? I should read Fung to understand the differences.
15 Aug 19 by member: moopie321
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Well if you undereat that encourages the body to "shut down" and try to save energy. If you fast the body will more easily access its store energy and lose fat. You will end up being in ketosis after a couple of days and you can go on fasting for a long time if you have a lot of body fat. (the record as far as we know is 382 days) So Fung argues two different systems are activated. If you do not have body fat the body will break down protein. Fung argues, we do not have proof of this though, that the body will break down the useless protein first like excess skin rather than essential organs like heart and muscles. Fung has given a lot interviews and podcasts so it is easy to listen to him talk about this.
15 Aug 19 by member: liv001
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