-Diablo's Journal, 12 Aug 19

When people ask me how I lost a lot of weight, they’re eyes glaze over when I say years of using measuring cups to control portions and keeping the online food diary here to create a caloric deficit. 👀 If people have a different route to getting to that coloric deficit, more power to them. 

facts are facts plain and simple. 

Diablo- you asked for opinions and comments. Go back to the paragrapgh in your jpurnal post that starts with "Maybe" . Two men in your gym who are are on a journey to weight loas, a healthy lifestyle no matter their personal food choices should be and lifting weights should be affirmed. They both seem to be following the path of a healthy weight and exercise more. You seem to be the one that that has an issue with them reaching goals but not following your own personal choices and agenda. Not every one is on the same journey as you to look like a body builder. There is more than one truth. 

I don't understand why anyone would respond with criticism to an acquaintance who's losing weight and feeling good about it. Why rain on someone's parade, even if you think you know better? 

I think that telling someone to count calories to stay within a certain amount and to exercise is really hard for them to hear. They've tried and failed before. It takes a lot of discipline. If you can give someone a simple rule... Don't eat bread or chips or potatoes but go ahead and eat all the bacon eggs and burgers you want and then they lose (not realizing it's from less calories) it seems like something new. It's easy (until the binge). No one wants to hear that I eat 1800 calories a day and lift for an hour and to be honest... I didn't want to hear it either. I wanted to hear about the pills or green tea or something that would make me not hungry...something magical - I did not want to hear that it is eating less and moving more. That's hard! 

Tbrooksjr...that's right. In all things...! 

dp- your husband rained on the parade of others who have been successful in their personal choices and journey and seem to be successful. Nothing in his post implied they asked him for his opinionr or advice. He used word like he thinks, wonders, and they did not say but he thought.He wants others to affirm his one track mind. More than one way to be healthy other than the Diablo way. 

Miraculum I totally agree with you. For most people dieting is a lot in the mind set. No need put more doubts than we already have. I guess if you’re a know-it-all you just can’t help yourself. 

Lol crazy cat chick... Unsure why you are calling me out to tell me what my husband did. If telling someone why their WOE is working for them means you are "raining on their parade" then so be it. I would never side with you over my husband. He's passionate about helping others where as I don't give two shits if you all starve yourselves. Furthermore... I hate cats. They are filthy, shit in boxes, and then jump up on your countertop. 

DP, people do no one any favors, and are not speaking the truth, when they characterize "LCHF/keto/carnivore" [take your pick] as "Don't eat bread or chips or potatoes but go ahead and eat all the bacon eggs and burgers you want and then they lose." Before I began exploring this WOE, I did a lot of research in available scientific and clinical information, most of which is not reflected in my FS posts. Overweight folks who want a "quick fix" are not ready for the planning and commitment required to effect a *successful* lifestyle change. 

And I tell people just that: Do your due diligence, or you will fail.  

DP, I'm not saying that you are telling people what you said, but I've seen lots of examples on social media. 

In today’s world of everybody gets a trophy and a juice box I think you may have burst someone’s bubble. Everyone has to find what works for them. I have done intermittent fasting, keto, Atkins, sugar busters, South Beach, diet pills etc. Now I am actually eating food based on my BMR. I have never eaten so much food in my life. I am working out and finally losing weight. 

DP - sad comments. my one cat does not jump on counters and adds filth to my home. It is called unconditional love and I am a fur buster clean up the hair. If you and your husband are not diverse in your oponions about health and weight loss that only speaks to your unacceptance of others opinions and life experience.  

os I do not starve myself. Assumption on your part.  

I can see the train a' coming'. . . .  

This is a philosophical question as everyone has their own true even if facts prove they are wrong 😂 Just joking of course. But I think we don’t need to tell no one if they are wrong or wright if someone didn’t ask for the advice or opinion. When people wants to learn anything- they ask questions, they listen different opinions, they are objective and always ready to change they opinions and believes. Otherwise no one would really hear us 

I feel a similar struggle with the utter lack of regard for weight maintenance. I don't frankly care how one loses it, but at this point I honestly don't give any loss much merit until I see someone consciously talking about how they are going to maintain WHILE THEY ARE LOSING. If I had a nickel for every person on the FS site alone who used the age old excuse "I'll worry about maintenance when I get to goal" and then gained every single pound back in the 2 year period I've been on here, I would frankly be richer than Donald Trump. It's honestly what keeps me from writing more about what it's like to maintain. Why bother, people seem to be addicted to the thrill and shame of losing and gaining and losing and gaining weight all over again. Try to even suggest one consider a plan or goal for maintenance while they are losing on whatever woe they are on, or suggest maintenance breaks when struggles during a journey arise, and you want to talk about "fingers in the ears". I do want to be helpful on the one hand, but I'm learning to stay in my own lane and "be the change." Perhaps it bugs me because I was that ignorant at one point and cruising the same roller coaster with my body and it wasn't until I was sick of my own excuses and the same outcome after enough gains and losses that I actively and very consciously took my fingers out of my own ears and woke the fu$k up. And, wanting to wake up and face the truth had to come from within. It wasn't based on what any one person said to me unless I was genuinely ready to hear it. So, I assume it is likely that way with others. And, I also need to accept that some will never wake up and that this is okay, too. So, I just continue to set maintenance goals and if it resonates with someone who is ready to get off the weight loss bandwagon, then great. If it doesn't, perhaps the universe feels they have more to learn from their journey before they can let go and enjoy life beyond the weight loss/weight gain roller coaster. Besides, I recognize that even in maintenance I'm still student to this body and continue learning. You never really stop. But, I can state this - as unsexy and boring as maintenance can be - I am down on my knees humbly grateful to be on this end of the spectrum in so many ways I can't even put into words - even if it meant swallowing a lot of hard pills. 

Yes. So many diiferent ways to achieve the same goal. My hubby is on FS and many follow and he follows. We have different ways to meet our goals and do not follow in eithers footsteps. Personal attatck on me based on y profile name are laughable. Attack my comments well go at it I have tough skin. Good luck everone on youe personal journey and lifestyle choices! 

I really don’t understand why people wouldn’t put in the effort to record their calories. It may take me 10 minutes per day at the most. If that’s what it takes to drop 10, 20, 50 lbs, I’d have done it long ago. Especially with the options available for recording calories. It’s so easy.