Bcoulal's Journal, 15 Mar 16

What about net carbs? Or r they fiberless? I know they pack a lot of sodium! 

You are right. I've seen different nutrition labels and it is confusing. I was eating pickles as snacks because the label said less than one gm per pickle. Now I check with the Atkin's Carb Counter when in doubt. 

Unless a cucumber has the carb/fiber ratio of a chia seed, it contains more net carbs than fiber. A cucumber only has 1.5g of fiber, the rest is soluble carbs. You do the math. 

Got it. Thanks. So do you add the sugar grams as carbs? Just curious.  

Sugar, specifically fructose, is considered a low-glycemic carb, but don't let that fool you. 100% of fructose turns into fat in the liver without ever triggering insulin, which means that's a very bad thing. White table sugar is 50% glucose and 50% fructose, so 50% of that sugar turns directly into fat and doesn't spike insulin, while the glucose part spikes insulin. So if you're insulin resistant, any form of sugar, especially the kind that has been purified into white crystals for you to eat, is bad. 

And yes, sugar counts as soluble carbs. 

The sugar portion of the nutrition label only accounts for fructose. The rest is glucose, and then you have that tiny portion of fiber. So just because the nutrition label doesn't list glucose as a valid constituent of "sugar," doesn't mean it doesn't exist as the "missing carbs" under the total carbs section. 

I've read instant coffee packets that read "Sugar free," then I read the ingredients and found that the packet contained added glucose. Glucose is a sugar, is it not? So how can something be sugar free when it contains sugar? Then it contains other stuff that I didn't really cared for like hydrogenated soybean oil and emulsifiers. I'm like nah, I'll stick with black coffee with butter aka bullet proof coffee. 

keep this coming for i love to read all of your post...you make so much good sense info for the keto diet people...yes you are well studied. 

Hopefully one day these labels will change... Yeah I'm a blk coffee drinker myself. I wait for the first cup of green tea to put my coconut oil in on most days. Just the thought of sugar makes me twinge. I tried this pure via stuff and it just leaves a "taste" in my mouth for a long time almost like aspartame used to. I didn't put it in my coffee but a squirt in tea and at first it was nice but then that taste just stayed with me almost sick like.  

Hey Bcoulal, My doctor says that clinical studies (might be true...but you know how doctors are, wink, wink) have indicated that two cups of black coffee a day are beneficial both physically and mentally...I drink the "beneficial" amount, then often another cup or two because I love coffee. I don't do bulletproof coffee yet, I'm afraid I'd like it. Also, I love dill pickles but don't eat them very often...there's a lot of sodium in those rascals. 

A small Cucumber 6-3/8" long is 3.4gms of carbs with only 2.3gms of net carbs. A Dill Pickle ~4" has sugar added to the brine, but that only brings it up to ~4gms of net carbs, but 1750gms of Sodium.... 

I just checked on the carb count of the cucumbers, because I eat cucumbers just about daily. A 8 inch medium cuke has 6 grams of carbs & 2 grams fiber. only 12 calories. That is the info from FS nutritution. of course this is fresh and there is no label. 

I make my own dill pickles. No sugar just dill seed and vinegar and tarragon. pre soak in lime to keep cukes firm. very good. the sodium comes from the vinegar which they say vinegar is good for about 900 different things. FYI 

Yes I used to consume large amounts of ACV. I sure wish I would have taken it with me on this last vaca. I got burnt to a crisp and really could have used that stuff! 

Steve Lloyd, coffee by itself induces cortisol, especially when you first wake up into the morning. Cortisol is a stress hormone that's made by your adrenal glands. Cortisol can trigger insulin release, even when there's no glucose present. Drinking coffee while attempting to get into a keto-adapted state isn't recommended. Part of your job in getting into a keto-adapted state is to keep cortisol concentrations at a minimum. That's why having too much cortisol (esp. if you drink two cups of coffee a day, can impede or halt the fat-burning effect of ketosis). Having high concentrations of cortisol coursing through your veins while trying to get into a keto-adapted state can be bad. Despite what your doctor said, with these so-called clinical studies about stimulating your brain, it has no benefit in the body's entire metabolism when it comes to fat oxidation. Have a good day. :) 

Sorry Bcoulal, you're probably right about cortisol and ketosis, but I'm on a balanced diet and not even close to ketosis, nor want to or need to be at this time. Check out my diet and exercise log, you'll see what I mean. I've been told that coffee is a stimulant and an appetite suppressant (not sure about that one for me though). For sure it is a stimulant, got me through many, no sleep nights at university, a LONG time ago and also used by a lot of endurance athletes to help invigorate training rides. Also, don't take offence but I don't think coffee helps fat oxidation but I do think it tastes good...real good. 

1. Cortisol levels rise in the morning on their own, it's our get-up-n'-go-hormone. 2. Caffeine will increase cortisol levels, however, it is also an appetite suppressant and a stimulant, so there's a trade-off. If your diet is where it should be the additional cortisol release should have little to no effect on your weight loss as you should be eating less, and eating less carbs. 3. Coffee tastes good :-)  

I drink coffee all day long and I have lost 110 lbs. I do portion control and low carbs. I find coffee keeps my appetite under control, and improves my energy levels so that I can take those walks to stay active. 

I'd also like to say I lost 100 of those 110 lbs in about 8 months.